Yep...Every single one of you that voted for Betty? She doesn't have to resign over possibly breaking the law and being a conduit in the Noe case because?
"Evidently the voters of the city of Toledo didn't feel the current state of affairs warranted turning her out of office"
Maggie isn't going to resign either, she's not going to answer questions either now, on the advice of her lawyer.
We already knew ethics doesn't matter to the Lucas County GOP or the Lucas County Democrats or the "other" Lucas County dem PAC. Well they matter if you are not one of "their" group. Let's look at some recent examples.
Lucas County GOP refuses to ask for Betty and Maggie to resign. (At least they didn't endorse Betty but it's not because they showed they believed in ethics it's because she didn't ask to be endorsed)
Lucas County Democrat's endorse Billboard Bob who not only is still involved in a court case concerning possible ethics issues but skirted term limits with the okay of the Toledo Law Director.
"Other" Lucas County Dem group endorses Karyn Hancock McConnell who in addition to her parking issues also had some other ethics issues related to the Toledo Municipal court and her clients.
Then of course the rest of the whole Noe situation, that the Democrats will focus on while ignoring the problems/issues within both "A" and "B" teamers.
I do have to say to be fair, he does have a point. Those of you who voted for both Betty, Bob and Karyn pretty much demonstrated ethics doesn't matter to you. It certainly wasn't because they were the only ones to vote for.
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11 comments:
Toledoans deserve the representation that they vote for...
Well some of us don't think we deserve to be affected by Toledo's decisions.
Like me for one...If there was not so much apathy in the burbs as well I'd suggest an overthrow. However given what I see on most issues? Only a few of us would show up.
:-)
What a crock. Voters didn't have all the facts before the election. Had it been released that Betty was a conduit before the election, there's a chance that a lot of the sheeple might have thought differently. They obviously did when it came to McConnell-Hancock.
I truly believe it's all about timing. If the Noe case is dragged out until Maggie's up for re-election, perhaps she'll have a few problems. Or I could be totally off base. :)
When I said "What a crock," I meant the GOP's statement, not either one of you two. :) Just clarifying.
lol val, thanks, though I kind of figured you meant the article.
I'm not sure though if I totally agree with you since anyone who paid attention knew Betty was a part of the grand jury. So there was suspicion. However since the Blade waited to release the info until after the election? We really don't have a way of knowing for sure. Maybe that would have made a difference, or maybe you have more faith in Toledo voters than I do right now.
:-)
It's not that I have faith in them. But... looking at what happened to KM-H, and then comparing the difference between how McCloskey did during the primaries vs. the election (after Dave Schultz started questioning the term limits issue), it makes me think that if there'd been a Blade article about Betty being a conduit for Noe before the election, a lot more people would have been turned off.
Especially since part of me wonders if she did as well as she did specifically because she didn't have the endorsement of the party. To the average voter who isn't paying as much attention as you all are, not having the endorsement could look like less association with Noe and "the corrupt GOP."
But again, this is just non-educated guessing.
Maybe, it just seems to me there were more ethic questions surrounding both Betty and Bob that were more severe than Karyn's issues. Granted I didn't feel Karyn should be re-elected but it seems if ethics was really a concern all three of them would have been near the bottom or not be re-elected.
But I agree with you we really don't know how much would have changed - it's guesswork on my part as well.
Hindsight always being 20/20, we could say that withholding the information until after the election was manipulation, pure and simple.
However, how many minds would have really been changed if the accusations were known before hand?
I have no clear answer for that but consider that the election results were typical for Toledo, with only one new person seated on Council.
Politics is a dirty game, and played badly, Toledo style...
I agree HT, all we can do is speculate. It would be nice to believe it would have made a difference but it's entirely possible the results would have been the same.
I'd like to know how long the Blade knew this information.
Now, THAT is a very good point!
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