Tuesday, November 01, 2005

Bird flu vs foodstamps?

Someone please explain this to me it doesn't make sense....

President Bush today asked Congress for $7.8 billion to help prepare the country for a global epidemic of influenza, telling a high-powered gathering of scientists and public officials at the National Institutes of Health that "our country has been given fair warning of this danger to our homeland."

Yet....

The food and agriculture cuts would reduce spending by $3.7-billion, including $844-million on nutrition, $760-million on conservation and $212-million on payments to farmers.

Sooo we don't care if you have food to feed your children but...we don't want you to get the flu?

Twisted logic...

15 comments:

Care of Sweety Technician said...

Of course it doesn't make sense, if it did, it wouldn't be a Bush administration. It does make a good distraction to talk about pandemics and all when his administration's actions may be actually catchting up to them (not him, of course, unless he was caught with a white house intern, because THAT we would not tolerate - or actually, my personal fantasy, that somebody will catch him doing lines)...

Hooda Thunkit (Dave Zawodny) said...

"Twisted logic...

Yes, as are some of the subsidies we continue paying.

I'd like the Gubment to wipe the slate clean and start over, applying uncommon sense, this time...

Anonymous said...

I grew up in a farm in Iowa and farmed for 8 years after leaving my parent's home. We're far from going hungry in this country. In fact, did you know that many farmers get paid by the government to NOT farm their land because there's so much surplus that it drives the market price down? Makes no sense to me. I work my butt off on my land while my neighbor gets a bigger check from the government because he's not doing anything with his land? I now own land (considerably less land) in the Toledo area that I don't farm. Where's my check from the government? Hope the "farming welfare" checks that inspire sloth are the first to go.

Unknown said...

Wally, I agree there is a major issue with farming subsidies and the larger corporate farms profiting more from this than the family farmer as was intended.

There may be enough food grown and processed however from personal involvement with church groups and the food bank there are families in all areas especially Toledo that do not have enough money to buy food for the whole month. You figure most of the church pantries serve at least 250 to 300 people every month, then the food bank? The numbers are alot higher than most realize.

Aaron said...

Good point Lisa, especially considering the cheapest and most effective way of fighting the flu is sanitary habits/conditions along with a healthy immune system.

Scott G said...

It is all part of the plan to have everyone die of malnutrition before the bird flu comes so that he can say he won the war on disease.

My uncle was an Iowa farmer. Now the whole state stinks because of hogs

Unknown said...

Yes, hogs can be smelly...however I admit I am a huge fan of bacon...

:-)

Unknown said...

While I don't dispute that President Bush would get the blame I do firmly feel there is alot of other areas that should be cut first. Given the huge waste/pork on the last several bills? It is obvious there is more than enough areas to cut before something as important as food is. Fraud and mispent funds in Iraq alone if properly went after to demand refunds would probably cover a huge portion of these costs.

Scott G said...

Wouldn't a better use of the money be to help those most at risk for disease. Isn't the plan to get enough for just 20 million people?

Unknown said...

HA! Becareful me4 we aren't supposed to expect them to do things that make sense.

:-)

Anonymous said...

In response to Lisa Marie...I'm involved in our church's food bank. I agree that most people don't know how deep the need in Toledo is.

I guess my disagreement with you is your implication in your original post that because farmer's subsidies are cut that there's going to be a food shortage that will cause mass starvation. People not having money for food in Toledo has nothing to do with farmers getting thier check from the government.

I have a problem with any government subsidies that "prop up" things that would otherwise fail. Why not get allow the market to determine what succeeds and fails as opposed to the federal government? Its our tax dollars they're spending.

Obviously farming will never fail. We need food to survive. But farming is changing. The "family farm" is dying a slow death. When I was growing up my dad supported our family on 375 acres of land. Wouldn't even come close today (one of the major reasons I'm not farming now). I don't like the thought that my dad will be the last farmer in our family. But the cost of keeping the family farm - major government subsidies - is unnatural.

We need to face the fact that there may likely be a day when there's a "Family Farmer" exhibit at the Henry Ford Museum. We don't subsidize buggy wheel makers or blacksmiths or telegraph operators - because the world changed and children didn't follow in the family profession. The blacksmith's child worked for Henry Ford. The telegraph operator became a telephone operator. And this Iowa farmer's son became a construction worker.

The times they are a changin'

Unknown said...

Wally, thanks, and I understand that part of your disagreement with me. I am not as supportive of the farming subsidies as I am to foodstamps, WIC and the school nutrition programs. While I have been sad to see the elmination of the family farm by the huge corporations, that is a different topic. I personally don't believe any of these corporate farms should be receiving subsidies.

Unknown said...

Clark, thank you for the link, that does clearly demonstrate the farm subsidy issue.

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