Wednesday, June 20, 2007

President Vetos Stem Cell Research bill and the debate continues...

Once again Republicans and Democrats can not come to an agreement on a topic considered to be important by many Americans which resulted in a Presidential veto that the Democrats do not have enough votes to overcome.

Compromise is not something that either side appears able to do. While it's being reported on Fox and elsewhere that the President is going to sign an executive order that will expand the NIH embryonic stem cell registry to include all types of "ethically produced" stem cells, and is said is supposed to encourage scientists to work with NIH to add new "ethically derived" stem cell lines to the list of those eligible for federal funding. We are still at an impasse as to one of the most basic questions when it comes to stem cell research. Is it necessary to use embryos as a part of this process or is it possible to not use embryos. Science can't even seem to agree on this issue and while it's being stated that a good majority of Americans support the concept of stem cell research, it is not clear which type is even being referenced on many of the polls I've looked at.

Neither side should play politics when it comes to something as important as stem cell research, yet all to often both sides only portray their side of the discussion rather than to be honest. Since this is predicted to be a presidential campaign issue, be prepared for more misinformation...The simple truth is, most of us don't know even what is possible yet with stem cell research, only what is thought could be done...

6 comments:

Hooda Thunkit (Dave Zawodny) said...

Agreed Lisa, this is the politics of what might or could be, with much speculation and very little certainty to back anything up.

So, it will be politically milked to the max :-(

Anonymous said...

Lisa,

You say: "Compromise is not something that either side appears able to do."

And yet, one of the arguments for expanding embryonic stem cell research is to get appropriate ethnic diversity, which the current lines do not have.

So, this -- "...an executive order that will expand the NIH embryonic stem cell registry to include all types of "ethically produced" stem cells..." -- would appear to be a compromise. If it happens.

You also say: "The simple truth is, most of us don't know even what is possible yet with stem cell research, only what is thought could be done..."

And the simple truth there is that nobody knows what is possible yet. There are scientists who think they know what might be possible; and there are scientists that completely disagree with them. The facts are not in; and both sides have evidence (different than proof) that supports their positions.

In that sense, the debate is very much like that of global warming. We know the diseases/disorders exist and deserve our efforts, as we know global warming exists. However, we do not know if this will have any affect; as we do not know if carbon emissions have any affect.

This misinformation and misrepresentation of facts is the fault of politics playing at science and scientists playing at politics. IMO, it bodes ill for us all.

Unknown said...

I'm not clear on the ethnic diversity issue aspect of this, I was under the impression that "ethically produced" stem cells meant ones that did not come from an embryo.

I could be wrong, it's been a while since I've really looked into all of the issues related to stem cell research. I totally agree with you on the scientists not agreeing, but I usually use "most" since there could be something out there I missed.

Anonymous said...

Sorry. That was my mis-reading. Or, perhaps, wishful thinking.

I read "ethnically produced" instead of "ethically produced." My mind inserted the 'n'.

If it were so, it would be a compromise. What "ethically produced" stem cells could mean, I'm not sure. Perhaps it's a reference to adult stem cells donated by willing participants?

I thought it was an order allowing for more ethnic variety in the allowable stem cells. You have my apologies.

Unknown said...

No apologies necessary, I wasn't aware of the ethnic aspect but that makes sense, I missed that as a part of the debate about stem cell research.

I wish more people would donate umbilical cord blood as one example, that way maybe we could discover if there were really alternatives to embryos being needed in the first place or if those working on adult stems would actually be able to demonstrate more than just promises...

Anonymous said...

Last time I checked those working with adult stem cells had made devised more practical treatments than those working with embryonic stem cells. I haven't checked lately, though.