Tuesday, March 28, 2006

More on immigration...and Mike DeWine...


The committee's vote was a partial victory for Bush, who supports a guest-worker program to fill jobs for which no American workers are available. After the vote, White House spokesman Scott McClellan praised the fact that the Senate was "moving forward" on legislation.

The four Republicans on the committee who supported the immigration bill were Specter and Sens. Mike DeWine of Ohio, Sam Brownback of Kansas and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina. Brownback has been mentioned as a potential 2008 presidential candidate.

Washington Post:

With bipartisan support, the Senate Judiciary Committee voted 12 to 6 to side with President Bush's general approach to an immigration issue that is dividing the country, fracturing the Republican Party and ripening into one of the biggest political debates of this election year. Conservatives have loudly demanded that the government tighten control of U.S. borders and begin deporting illegal immigrants. But in recent weeks, the immigrant community has risen up in protest, marching by the hundreds of thousands to denounce what they see as draconian measures under consideration in Washington.

The panel voted to accept a bill largely patterned on the measure sponsored by Kennedy and McCain. Specter and Republican Sens. Lindsey O. Graham (S.C.), Sam Brownback (Kan.) and Mike DeWine (Ohio) joined the committee's Democrats to win passage.

Cleveland Plain Dealer:

It was a victory for demonstrators who had spilled into the streets by the hundreds of thousands demanding better treatment for immigrants.

With a bipartisan coalition in control, the committee also voted down proposed criminal penalties for immigrants found to be in the country illegally. It approved a new temporary program allowing entry for 1.5 million workers seeking jobs in the agriculture industry.

At several critical points, committee Democrats showed unity while Republicans splintered. In general, Graham, Sen. Sam Brownback of Kansas and Sen. Mike DeWine of Ohio, who is seeking re-election this fall, voted with the Democrats. That created a majority that allowed them to shape the bill to their liking.

Akron Beacon Journal:

The Senate Judiciary Committee on Monday approved sweeping legislation that clears the way for 11 million illegal aliens to seek U.S. citizenship, a victory for demonstrators across the country who had spilled into the streets by the hundreds of thousands demanding better treatment for immigrants.

Other GOP members supporting the bill were Sens. Mike DeWine of Ohio, Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Sam Brownback of Kansas.

Columbus Dispatch:

WASHINGTON — The Senate Judiciary Committee yesterday approved a comprehensive immigration bill that would create a foreign guest-worker program and put millions of illegal immigrants on track toward permanent residency and U.S. citizenship.

Other GOP members supporting the bill were Lindsey Graham, of South Carolina, Mike DeWine, of Ohio, and Sam Brownback, of Kansas.

Fox News:

WASHINGTON — After eight hours of seemingly endless debate, the Senate Judiciary Committee wrapped up an immigration reform bill on Monday evening that addresses the concerns of many illegal immigrants and border patrol hawks, but doesn't satisfy the majority leader.

On several amendments, GOP Sens. Lindsay Graham of South Carolina, Sam Brownback of Kansas and Mike DeWine of Ohio, who is seeking re-election this fall, sided with Democrats.

Toledo Blade:

The Senate Judiciary Committee yesterday approved immigration legislation that clears the way for millions of undocumented workers to seek U.S. citizenship without having to first leave the country.

(They don't even mention Mike DeWine's role in the vote).

Now why did I do this? Not to bore you with repetition, but to point out which media made an implication to DeWine's campaign, which ones did not and which one didn't mention him at all. You would think Ohio news sources would concentrate a bit more on what an Ohio Senator does, especially on an issue as important as Immigration. Of course how DeWine votes on the actual floor of the Senate will have more bearing on this than how he voted in Committee.

I also find it interesting the wording choices that each news source uses for the same story.

I realize it's popular to say the media has a liberal bias, but when you look at some of these stories it appears more to me that sometimes the bias isn't just based on liberalism. It's also clear who wrote an article versus who took it from a source and merely changed a few words.

(This post was written for the Carnival of Ohio Politics, brought to you by Paul Miller of Northwest Ohio Net one of my favorite sources of Ohio news... make sure to stop by so you can see what some of Ohio's best bloggers are writing about)


historymike said...

Phew. Nice and quiet here. My blog is insane right now; I don't know how "big-league" bloggers keep up.

That must be why some of the bigger blogs don't bother with comments.

(historymike started blogging about the Winkler case on Friday, and his blog / email/ life has been overwhelmed by a tsunami of people around the world weighing in)

Back to topic -

Now maybe we can move forward. This issue has the potential to become as divisive as slavery was in the mid-19th century.

And, personally, I don't think we should make an important issue like immigration reform the focus of political campaigns in November.

We Americans do our worst thinking when we make decisions in election years.

Lisa Renee said...

Yes, us small timers like the quiet. (lol)


Unfortunately this will become a campaign issue, it already has become a huge political issue. Which is why I am focusing on it. Especially here in Ohio, it's going to be a part of the Senate campaign and probably extend into many other races as well.

historymike said...

I thought I was small potatoes, and I was until about noon on Friday.

And I am attracting some really hardcore fundamentalists emailing me and posting. They are writing faster than I can delete this stuff.

I just went out to change the plugs and plug wires on a car (maybe 25 minutes) and there were 36 emails in that span.

Lisa Renee said...

Imagine what it was like during the Terri days...


I didn't delete them though, unless they made death threats.

historymike said...

Yeah, most of these people seem harmless, although the literal interpretations of the Bible ("Wives: be submissive to your husbands") are getting old.

Good news! I'm up to $.23 today in Google AdSense dollars.

If this keeps up I'll be able to buy a hotdog with my March earnings.

Paul A. Miller said...

Isn't it fascinating how the "major media" - the ones with the money and the multiple-degreed "journalists" and the seven layers of editing and the "brave tradition" of an independent and free press - all parrot each other like school girls telling their friends about the new boy in class?

Great work putting these all in one spot for comparison, Lisa. From my point of view, though, I do see what I would consider a "liberal" bias in most of these reports, particularly the repeated phrase "better treatment for immigrants." This isn't about all "immigrants," just a small portion who happen to be here illegally. And the loaded phrase assumes immigrants are not treated well now. While some conservatives (mostly the "Big Biz" branch) do favor a guest worker program, generally, amnesty or semi-amnesty proposals for illegal aliens come from the left. By twisting the language, the newspapers are making a judgment call in favor of that position.

Oh, and as for the Blade - I expect its editors and reporters to carry water for Sherrod Brown, so failing to notice DeWine exercising some real power on a major issue is no surprise.

BTW - Thanks, Lisa, for the very kind words.

Me4Prez said...

I like the way you set this up. I try to do the same thing everyday to the various blogs and news sources I read. It is one of the ways I humor myself throughout the day.

Lisa Renee said...

Paul, I always have kind words for you...


I have to admit I was basing my determination more on the way Mike DeWine was being reported and the way it was deemed by CNN as a "partial victory" for President Bush. I also focused on Fox's in comparison because some of their information was similar to the more "liberal" sources.

I placed less emphasis on the "better treatment for immigrants" statement since it appears to have been cut and pasted from the original source of the article. But that is a valid point and brings up the never ending question of why major media sources can't spend just a bit more time writing their own work.

I was surprised the Blade didn't mention DeWine at all, I expected a mention that he was running for Senate as away to make a connection to that as both Fox and the Cleveland Plain Dealer did. (Though I'm sure for different reasons.)

Thanks me4, I like to do this from time to time, I might be surprised at some point and find they all did original work rather than just rewriting an AP or other sources piece.


Stephanie said...

I think it's very interesting who refers to the illegal immigrants as immigrants, or illegal immigrants or illegal aliens.

Stephanie said...



"Wives: be submissive to your husbands"

I'm actually a supporter of that particular Biblical interpretation, but, much like our government, marriage involves checks and balances. If the man isn't holding up to his Biblical responsibilities, and instead being abuse or neglectful (this is NOT an accusation against Matthew Winkler), then the woman has the responsibility to take care of herself however she needs to. People who believe a woman being submissive to her husband means she has to take being abused in the name of God, aren't people who understand Christ's message very well, imo.

For example, it wasn't so long ago that I was butting heads with the staunch white supremists on your blog, which I continued until my husband asked me to stop which I did. That is an example of a wife being submissive to her husband.

My point is that the concept isn't necessarily wrong, it's how it's acted upon that causes trouble.

Lisa Renee said...

Going OT on that one as well, I think the problem is how most people interpret the word "submit".

They focus on the submission phrase and forget this part:

28 Even so ought husbands also to love their own wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his own wife loveth himself:

29 for no man ever hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as Christ also the church;

30 because we are members of his body.

31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife; and the two shall become one flesh.


Catdaddy-n-Dr.Squeeky said...

I'm no longer interest on the illegal immigrant thing... After having an argument with my mother for 30 minutes, I realized that the question we should be asking and protesting about is why wages for workers are so low that Americans won't take those jobs while ceo's make so much (like the ceo for the hedgefund SAC, who makes 500 million a year)?
As long as we are focused on those dangerous aliens, we won't notice the tycoons' castles.

Stephanie said...

Exactly, Lisa!