Thursday, August 04, 2005

Should a convicted killer receive full military honor burial?

HAGERSTOWN, Maryland (AP) -- The remains of an Army veteran convicted of stabbing an elderly couple to death were interred at Arlington National Cemetery with full military honors.

Russell W. Wagner, 52, died February 2 in prison, where he was serving two consecutive life sentences for the Valentine's Day 1994 killings of Daniel Davis, 84, and Wilda Davis, 80. Both were bound and repeatedly stabbed.

Wagner's cremated remains were inurned July 27 at the request of Wagner's sister, Karen Anderson, Arlington spokeswoman Lori Calvillo said.

I could see this one both ways. He did serve the military which earned him the burial spot in Arlington with full honors. However, he did murder two people. Does serving your country with honor get taken away if you do something later that is without honor that is outside of the military?

10 comments:

Me4Prez said...

I think it kind of depends on when the crime was committed. If he was honorably discharged, then I don't think there is a military reason to prevent it.

You get the honor because of military service and not being a good person. If that was a qualification, out federal cemetaries would have far less graves.

Lisa Renee said...

That's kind of the way I was looking at it, the impression the article gives is had they known at Arlington they wouldn't have given him full military honors.

Which is why I wondered should it make a difference and if so how....

Cyberseaer said...

I am agreeing with me4 on this one. As long as he was honorably discharged, he should get a full military funreal.

Look at some of the Hall of Famers in Football and Baseball. Some of the poeple in those Halls were drug abusers, racists, or just plain not nice people. (I do not know if OJ Simpson is in the Hall of Fame) The point is that some of these players did not have the high moral compass that we wish that they had. But, they were great are what they did. So, we honor thier abilty, talent, and achievements on the field. They may be a bunch of SOBs in life, but they were great at what they did. A miltary funreal is no different.

We should honor this man's valor for serving for this country. It deosn't mean we have to like him or agree with any of his actions that he chose to take after his service.

Lisa Renee said...

I can understand the victim's son being upset since he is also a vet, however, I can also see that the man deserved the full honor burial since he was discharged with honor.

Like I said this is one of those I can see both sides type, but both of you are making excellent points.

Me4Prez said...

I can understand not thinking it was right and I probably feel the same. I just think that starting to limit them because of actions outside the military can start us on a slippery slope. Robert E Lee and all Confederates committed treason.

Audie Murphy was a child molestor. It makes him a shitty person, but he was a damn good soldier.

Maybe we should put asterisks on people's tombstones who weren't good people.

Lisa Renee said...

lmao me4 there would be alot of asteriks...

:-)

Brew said...

IMHO funerals aren't for the dead, they're for the living. Regardless of his actions, regardless of his discharge status, he served, and that's how his family wanted to remember him . . .

And on a completely unrelated note - it's really really hot here. I don't know how you've stayed Lisa.

Lisa Renee said...

lmao Brew, welcome to the practice zone for hell....

It has been a very hot summer here, it's going to take you a while to get used to the extra humidity.

Tracy Akins said...

You pay a steep price when convicted of a felony. You lose certain rights including the right to purchase or possess a firearm, and rightfully so. IMHO I think the right to be buried with full military honors should also be forfieted.

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