Thursday, July 07, 2005

Terror in London vs Terror in the Middle East

It's too early to know what the total counts for dead and injured as well as the financial cost of damage to the London subway at this point. The reason this is and was headline news here in the United States was because London is not typically under attack. Many in London felt safe, it's one thing to see terrorism in another country, something different when it is your own.

In the Middle East, suicide bombers and car bombings have become common place. They still cause terror for those that live there but the rest of the world seems to treat most of these incidents as a mere byline. Today some of the newspapers report:

Thirteen people were killed and 30 wounded late on Wednesday in two almost simultaneous car bombings in the central Iraqi town of Jbeila, some 100km south of Baghdad, police said.

We shake our heads and move on to the next news article. In June CNN reported 8,175 people were killed and another 12,000 wounded since January 2005 in Iraq by terrorists or insurgents however you prefer to label them. This number has grown since January. Interior Minister Bayan Jabr said on June 2 of this year that 12,000 Iraqis had been killed during the past 18 months. Yet the total numbers aren't often talked about. If 8,175 people were killed all at once it would be a huge situation that would demand immediate action and comment from all of the world leaders.

There was no outcry or demand for action on June 2nd when those numbers were announced. Nothing changed from the release of that information and Iraqis have died since, almost daily.

London however is treated differently because that hits closer to home for us. They are a civilized society not some spot in the Middle East. England joined with the US in the whole "war on terror" so some view this almost the same as if it were an attack on the US.

So, as I feel sorrow and sympathy for those who have lost loved ones in London and pray for the recovery of those injured in today's bombings I wonder when we will stop placing such a high price on US or British lives versus others. The families of the over 12,000 victims in Iraq mourn their dead. To each one of them their loved one was an important part of their life taken away from them before their time by violent means.

I pray for us all that a day comes soon when no one has to find out they've lost a loved one because of a bombing. That someday a life has the same value no matter who it is that has been killed. If police here in our country killed innocent children because criminals were in the same house there would be an outcry. An investigation, a demand for action to prevent similiar repeats of loss of innocent lives. In Afghanistan or Iraq, it's "unfortunate" but "necessary" and blamed on the victims for being there.

I can't help wondering if we do not place any real value on their lives, how can we expect them to value ours?

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

Perhaps some have become desensitized to those in Iraq or don't have an accurate count on the casualties. Wish but that I knew. Seems, sometimes, Iraq is the issue and not the people in it. No matter the rhetoric, more interest in the insurgents. Not more interest, poorly worded ... but little thought given to the price of liberation.

Unknown said...

All we can do at this point is pray this is over soon. Eventually it has to at least diminish.

Hopefully as Iraq stands more on it's own and Palestine and Israel move towards peace some of the foundation for terrorism will be destroyed.

Scott G said...

Your post makes me think of my favorite scene from the West Wing when they are debating sending in US forces as peace keepers. Bartlett asked why an American life was worth more to him then an African one and the responce to him was, "I don't know, it just is."

It makes sense for us to value our own safety over citizens of other countries. That is, in fact, our governments main purpose. What we have done though is devalue others and treat them as second(or third) class beings. Then we wonder why people don't like us or respect our intentions. Our intentions have always been to keep others down so that we remained on top instead of leading by helping everyone else up.

I would like to think there is a sincerity to help in places like Africa, but lean towards Bush doing it because he owes Blair

Anonymous said...

There's a lot to comment on here, but frankly, my mind is still trying to absorb and sort out all of the things coming into it. There was one thing you said in one of your comments that I definitely wanted to comment on.

You said this:
"Hopefully as Iraq stands more on it's own and Palestine and Israel move towards peace some of the foundation for terrorism will be destroyed."

I think that unfortunately, those events wont make much of a difference. The fact is, the terrorists hate the western culture. They hate how immoral we are. They hate that we aren't muslim. As long as there are strong "western" countries, there will always be these terrorists that hate them.

I don't feel that I got my point out very well, but hopefully you'll understand what I meant.

Also, I want to second your call for prayer. That is the best thing we can do right now.

Unknown said...

Thanks brew, josh and me4...I do remember that episode...

Josh, I don't think it will stop it but it might diminish the source of some of it. Alot of the hatred used to recruit is based on what is happening in Iraq right now and prior to that Palestine. That was one of the primary reasons Bin Ladin even managed to recruit alot of the ones he did.

Sure some of them will always hate us but as some of the main reasons are no longer there? Worth hoping for incase our prayers aren't answered.

It's too early to know who really was responsible though I just heard North's opinion that it wasn't related to Bin Ladin but spin off groups that probably have no connection to him other than agreeing with his beliefs.

This morning when I wrote this there were reports of between 2 and 10 dead, tonight it's now at 38 and might go up. I'm sure this won't be the last time one of the nations involved in supporting the war in Iraq will be attacked.

So I'm trying hard to think of some way this will end. Maybe I am wrong and this will never even diminish, on this one I hope you can understand Josh that I hope you are wrong not me.

:-)

Scott G said...

I don't know if it is a racial or skin color thing that keeps Americans indifferent to their loss. I think it has more to do with a superiority complex that has those who don't act or think like us being less human. It probably has something to do with us thinking they are less intelligent and civilized than we are

Anonymous said...

In regards to your idea that we value the lives of Americans and the British more than those of the Iraqis, you really only need to head over to talkleft.com to see the opposite. I was disgusted as I read what people were writing over there. Tons of people justifying the actions of the terrorists, and giving them excuses. And why? Because they hate Bush and they hate conservative ideals. It makes me physically ill.

Oh and in regards to this comment you made Lisa:
"Maybe I am wrong and this will never even diminish, on this one I hope you can understand Josh that I hope you are wrong not me."

For the world's sake, I hope I'm wrong too..

Unknown said...

I don't visit talk left, but I've seen the extreme hatred on both sides of the political spectrum. Even the Whitehouse acknowledges the increase in terrorism due to Iraq wasn't expected but I don't believe this was done purposely.

Could we have done things differently as a nation? Of course but that is in hindsight. We as a nation monday morning quarterback almost everything, including politics.

Scott G said...

I actually respect conservative values, I just wish that more people who claimed to have them actually did.

The same can be said for liberals who use the word to describe themselves, but don't really act on what they say they believe.